MINUTES OF THE ASSEMBLY COMMITTEE ON WAYS AND MEANS Sixty-eighth Session June 10, 1995 The Committee on Ways and Means was called to order at 9:07 a.m., on Saturday, June 10, 1995, Chairman Marvel presiding, in Room 352 of the Legislative Building, Carson City, Nevada. Exhibit A is the Agenda. Exhibit B is the Attendance Roster. COMMITTEE MEMBERS PRESENT: Mr. Morse Arberry, Jr., Chairman Mr. John W. Marvel, Chairman Mrs. Jan Evans, Vice Chairman Ms. Sandra Tiffany, Vice Chairman Mr. Dennis L. Allard Mrs. Maureen E. Brower Mrs. Vonne Chowning Mr. Jack D. Close Mr. Thomas A. Fettic Ms. Chris Giunchigliani Mr. Lynn Hettrick Mr. Bob Price Mr. Larry L. Spitler COMMITTEE MEMBERS ABSENT: Mr. Joseph E. Dini, Jr. (Excused) STAFF MEMBERS PRESENT: Mr. Mark Stevens, Fiscal Analyst Mr. Gary Ghiggeri, Deputy Fiscal Analyst SENATE BILL 206 Makes appropriation to Budget Division of Department of Administration for enhancements to Executive Budget system. Mr. Perry Comeaux, Director, Department of Administration, testified S.B. 206 would provide for an appropriation of $275,000 to the Budget Division for enhancements to the Executive Budget system to eliminate current deficiencies of the system. He stated the cost estimates were provided by the Department of Information Services. The most expensive component of the enhancements would be the conversion of the system to the mainframe computer from the division's local area network ($200,000). He noted detailed information about the enhancements and their estimated costs have been provided to fiscal staff. MR. FETTIC MOVED DO PASS S.B. 206. MR. PRICE SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. * * * * * SENATE BILL 212 Makes appropriation to Health Division of Department of Human Resources for various equipment. Mr. Ron Lange, Administrative Services Officer, Health Division, testified S.B. 212 would authorize a one-time appropriation of $1,361,521 to support four programs. A written transcript of Mr. Lange's testimony, which delineates how the funding is proposed to be allocated, is attached as Exhibit C. Ms. Tiffany asked if software would have to be purchased for the personal computers and laptop computers. Mr. Lange stated the Immunization Registry software was currently loaded on the division's computers. Mr. Bill Moell, Management Analyst, Office of the Health Officer, stated the Immunization Registry program was issued to the division under an unlimited license which allowed the program to be placed on as many computers as necessary to gather the necessary data. Ms. Tiffany asked how the automated lab information system would be developed. Mr. Moell stated the division would be working with the Department of Information Services to evaluate needs and purchase equipment. Ms. Tiffany asked if the software would be purchased or developed in-house. Mr. Moell responded that determination would be made as part of the needs assessment. Ms. Tiffany questioned how the cost estimate had been developed. Mr. Lange stated the costs were estimated based on commercial programs currently available on the market. Mrs. Evans inquired whether any of this equipment would be used in the addition to the Health Laboratory. She asked for information on the status of the addition to the Health Laboratory. Dr. Arthur DiSalvo, State Laboratory Director, answered the laboratory addition consisted of construction of the new addition and remodeling of the old facility. The addition was scheduled to be completed in September 1995. MR. HETTRICK MOVED DO PASS S.B. 212. MR. PRICE SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. * * * * * SENATE BILL 215 Makes appropriation to the Division of Child and Family Services of Department of Human Resources for vehicles, equipment, supplies and building maintenance for certain youth bureaus. Mr. John Sarb, Administrator, Division of Child and Family Services, explained S.B. 215 would authorize appropriations totaling $206,194 for miscellaneous equipment in the youth corrections areas of the division. He noted an itemized listing of expenditures had been provided to the committee. MS. GIUNCHIGLIANI MOVED DO PASS S.B. 215. MS. TIFFANY SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. * * * * * SENATE BILL 301 Establishes for next biennium amount to be paid by state for group insurance for participating officers and employees. Mr. Perry Comeaux, Director, Department of Administration, stated S.B. 301 would establish the amount to be paid by the state for group insurance for participating employees for the coming biennium. He explained the amounts stated in the bill were the amounts required to fund the Benefit Services budget as it was closed by the committee. Chairman Marvel asked if the bill had been amended. Mr. Comeaux responded the amounts had been lowered from the amounts recommended by the Committee on Benefits to fund the program. Mr. Robert Gagnier, Executive Director, State of Nevada Employees Association (SNEA), spoke in support of amending S.B. 301. He explained SNEA had introduced the bill and wished to amend it back to its original language. The original proposal was for the state to provide $75 toward dependent coverage in the first year of the biennium and $83 in the second year. He noted while full family coverage was somewhat subsidized by the employee rate, other dependent coverage (i.e., spouse, or children only) is not. He explained as of January 1, 1994, 26 other states paid more for family health insurance than Nevada did. He asked the committee to amend S.B. 301 back to its original form. He cited a study by the U.S. Chamber of Commerce Research Association which indicated private industry paid 11.2 percent of salary toward health insurance for employees. S.B. 301, as amended, represented payment of 9.2 percent of salary toward health insurance. SNEA's proposal represented 10.7 percent. Mr. Gagnier stated the cost of SNEA's proposal would be $5.9 million in the first year of the biennium and $6.5 million in the second year. He noted S.B. 301, as amended, would authorize $7 million less funding over the biennium than was recommended in the Executive Budget. Mrs. Evans asked why the funding had been reduced in the amendment. Mr. Gagnier stated the original amount proposed in the Executive Budget was revised downward pursuant to the Committee on Benefits' revised medical inflation rate projections. Mr. Stevens suggested amending the bill to refer to the "base" amount of the state's share, to correspond with existing statutes. Mr. Fettic inquired how the bill would affect retirees. Mr. Gagnier expressed concurrence with Mr. Stevens' suggestion. He noted retirees received health care benefits commensurate with their years of service up to 137.5 percent of the base amount. Mr. Fettic stated he had been contacted by retirees who were adversely affected by this formula, which was adopted by the 1993 Legislature. He questioned whether the formula could be revised. Mr. Gagnier stated it would be up to the Legislature to revise the formula. The formula was adopted because it is cost neutral, i.e., the cost remains the same while the benefits for long-term employees improve. He noted the benefits would not be as great for short-term employees. He pointed out employees who retired prior to January 1, 1994, were unaffected by the new formulation. Ms. Giunchigliani noted retired teachers received nothing toward health insurance. She suggested the Budget Division review this policy. Mr. Gary Yoes, Service Employees International Union, expressed support for SNEA's position on S.B. 301. He noted since 1992 over 400 state employees have had to drop dependent health care coverage because of the spiraling premium costs. He said state workers needed some relief. He asked that the $7 million alluded to by Mr. Gagnier be used to subsidize to dependent coverage. BUDGET CLOSINGS DIVISION OF PAROLE AND PROBATION - PAGE 1849 Chairman Marvel asked for the report of the Subcommittee on Public Safety regarding the Division of Parole and Probation. Mr. Fettic reported the budget closures recommended by the subcommittee would result in a reduction of General Fund support of approximately $35,000 in Fiscal Year 1996 and an increase of approximately $93,000 in Fiscal Year 1997. A portion of the recommended savings in the General Fund cost is the result of a reprojection of the collections from offenders for "supervision costs" and for the cost of "house arrest fees" as collected from offenders (an increase of approximately $140,000 in the first year of the biennium and $151,000 in the second year). Mr. Fettic stated the budget, as originally submitted by the Governor, was revised by the Governor as the result of inquiries by the Legislature concerning the projected offender growth for the division over the 1995-97 biennium. The revised budget is predicated on an overall growth rate (for all caseload types) of 12.52 percent in Fiscal Year 1996 over Fiscal Year 1994 and 5.27 percent in Fiscal Year 1997 over Fiscal Year 1996. The original budget recommendation was predicated upon an overall growth rate of 8.9 percent in Fiscal Year 1996 over Fiscal Year 1994 and 4 percent in Fiscal Year 1997 over Fiscal Year 1996. The revised budget includes a recommendation to utilize Program Assistant IVS in lieu of Parole and Probation Officers for "paper-intensive" functions such as warrants, interstate compact activities, and for preparation for Parole Board hearings. This revision results in the addition of 19 Program Assistant IV positions in Fiscal Year 1996 and 2 additional Program Assistant IV positions in Fiscal Year 1997. The utilization of the Program Assistants facilitates the deployment of 10 Parole and Probation Officers who were performing those duties to supervision of offenders in the community. In addition to the 21 new Program Assistants, the subcommittee recommended 25 additional Parole and Probation Officers (14 in Fiscal Year 1996 and 11 in Fiscal Year 1997), 2 supervisors, and associated clerical and "worker/offender driven" support costs to manage the projected caseload growth over the 1995-97 biennium. The Budget Division supplied a recommendation on April 25, 1995, to begin the automation of the Division of Parole and Probation. The proposal will provide for a five-year program for automation at the estimated cost of $72,001 in Fiscal Year 1996 and $88,428 in Fiscal Year 1997 to hire a Computer Program Analyst and a Computer Systems Programmer to initiate work on the system. Funding is also recommended in the amount of $332,464 from one-time funding in Fiscal Year 1995 to begin acquisition of equipment associated with the system. The subcommittee recommended A.B. 236 be amended to include the required funding for the equipment. Information supplied by the division indicates costs in Fiscal Years 1998, 1999, and 2000 will be $394,020, $386,029, and $416,247, respectively. The Department of Information Services indicated it has reviewed a planning document for the Division of Parole and Probation and is in support of the deployment. Funding was recommended in the Executive Budget and is included in the subcommittee recommendation to provide for the operation of an Assessment and Lifeskills Program in Reno and Las Vegas and for the operation of an expanded Residential Confinement Program to include non-violent first- and second-time offenders. The Assessment and Lifeskills Program is projected to "deflect" 14 prison admissions per month, which is projected to reduce the average prison population by 61 inmates in Fiscal Year 1996 and 179 inmates in Fiscal Year 1997. The Expanded Residential Confinement Program is projected to reduce the average prison population by 141 inmates in Fiscal Year 1996 and 148 inmates in Fiscal Year 1997. The Budget Division requested, and the subcommittee recommended, the addition of the State Substance Abuse Coordinator (Drug Czar) in the Lifeskills and Assessment Program. Information supplied by the Budget Division indicates the transfer of the position to this program will enhance the Lifeskills Program since the program significantly targets drug and alcohol abuse among criminal offenders. To accurately track the costs associated with the Assessment and Lifeskills Program, the subcommittee recommended all costs except payroll be accounted for in a separate expenditure category. While no monetary adjustment was made to the division's operating budget, the subcommittee recommended the division move toward the use of mid-size vehicles. To accomplish this, the subcommittee recommended the funding provided to the State Motor Pool Division be adjusted to facilitate the purchase of 20 mid-size vehicles for lease to the Division of Parole and Probation. This is estimated to cost approximately $104,120 (approximately $5,206 per vehicle) more than what would be expended for the current compact size vehicle as routinely utilized by the division. The movement toward mid-size vehicles is recommended as an officer safety enhancement, and therefore, the subcommittee recommended a letter be sent to the Division of Parole and Probation indicating the mid-size vehicles be assigned to officers providing direct offender supervision who would have an occasion to transport offenders. Ms. Tiffany asked if the Division of Parole and Probation should be included in business process reengineering (BPR) for the prison. Mr. Fettic answered he did not recall any specific discussion regarding a BPR for Parole and Probation. He expressed the opinion he would like to see a BPR of Parole and Probation as long as it did not interfere with the division's ability to perform its function. Ms. Tiffany stated she was concerned with doing the automation system right. Mr. Spitler, Co-Chairman of the Public Safety Subcommittee, stated he was under the impression the Division of Parole and Probation would be included in the prison BPR. The division's automation system should be compatible with the prison's since the proposed diversionary programs would be dealing with inmates who were technically still in the prison system rather than in the parole system. Mrs. Evans said she was pleased to see Program Assistants were proposed to be added to free Parole and Probation Officers from paper work. She noted it was difficult to retain Parole and Probation Officers because of the low pay they received from the state. She inquired whether this issue had been addressed by the subcommittee. Mr. Spitler stated there had been discussion about the pay levels not only of Parole and Probation Officers but of State Troopers. He noted the state paid less across the board than other government entities. He pointed out it was also a challenge keeping high quality law enforcement employees due to the high demand for their services in the hotel industry. Mr. Fettic noted he was formerly employed in law enforcement. He attested to the difficulty of the job of Parole and Probation Officers. Mrs. Evans expressed concern that recent offender issues which had surfaced were evidence of systemic problems which encompassed more than just the Division of Parole and Probation. Mr. Spitler stated the subcommittee had attempted to identify some of those problems, such as improved training for Parole Board Commissioners and more realistic formulation of target parole rates (i.e., modeled after historic rates) to reduce stress on the Parole Board to meet unreasonable parole rates. Mrs. Evans reiterated the problems went beyond the Division of Parole and Probation. She questioned whether the prison system had been properly evaluated. She cited an incident in which an inmate had become addicted to heroin while confined in prison. That inmate was able to obtain heroin while in prison from visitors and from correctional officers. Mr. Price expressed support for Mrs. Evans' statement. MRS. EVANS MOVED TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE REPORT. MR. ALLARD SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. MRS. BROWER WAS ABSENT FOR THE VOTE. BUDGET CLOSED. * * * * * ASSEMBLY BILL 236 Makes appropriation to Division of Parole and Probation of Department of Motor Vehicles and Public Safety for replacement and purchase of various equipment. Mr. Ghiggeri explained the Public Safety Subcommittee proposed amending A.B. 236 to provide approximately $332,000 for hardware and software for the Division of Parole and Probation's automation system to allow the division to access the public safety and criminal justice system. In addition, funding of approximately $405,000 was recommended for replacement office equipment, computer equipment, etc., and to provide standardized weapons and protective vests for all Parole and Probation Officers. Mr. Hettrick asked if all weapons would have to be replaced. Mr. Fettic stated the division would like to replace every weapon to ensure all officers were using the same weapon. MRS. EVANS MOVED TO AMEND AND DO PASS A.B. 236 IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE SUBCOMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION. MR. PRICE SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. PAROLE BOARD - PAGE 1857 Chairman Marvel asked for the report of the Subcommittee on Public Safety regarding the Parole Board. Mr. Spitler reported the closure recommended by the subcommittee would result in an increase in General Fund support of approximately $13,000 in Fiscal Year 1996 and a reduction of approximately $14,000 in Fiscal Year 1997. The budget, as recommended by the Governor and approved by the subcommittee, would provide for the addition of one commissioner to the Board and two additional clerical support positions. In the Executive Budget the Governor provided funding to add the new commissioner and two clerical support positions in September 1995. The subcommittee recommended adding the new commissioner and one clerical support position in July 1995 and adding the second clerical support position in September 1995. The July 1995 date was recommended based on the scheduled July opening of the Lovelock Correctional Center. The subcommittee also recommended funding be provided in the amount of $10,000 in Fiscal Year 1996 and $2,000 in Fiscal Year 1997 for additional training for Parole Commissioners. The Governor had recommended $1,907 per year to send one commissioner to the McGeorge School of Law professional training program. The subcommittee recommended increasing this funding and that the funding be utilized for training to enhance the skills of Parole Commissioners and not for attending conferences. The Parole Board requested, and the subcommittee recommended, $2,980 to facilitate the relocation of the Parole Board from Building 6 to Building 107 at the Stewart facility. The funding will be utilized to trench and lay computer cable between Building 107 and Building 89 (Department of Prisons) to continue the Board's access to the Nevada Criminal Information System maintained by the Department of Prisons. The subcommittee recommended legislation be adopted to revise the qualifications of the Board of Parole Commissioners, either by amending existing legislation or by drafting new legislation. The subcommittee noted legislation would also be required to increase the size of the Board from six to seven members. Mr. Price suggested funding should also be included in the budget to allow Parole Commissioners to attend conferences. Mr. Ghiggeri noted funding was provided in the budget for a Parole Board member to attend two conferences per year. The funding for training recommended by the subcommittee is in excess of that recommended in the Executive Budget. Mr. Spitler stated training was the highest priority. Mr. Close noted the intent of the subcommittee was to bring the trainer to Nevada to train all Board members at the same time. Mr. Spitler suggested the committee issue a letter of intent to that effect. Ms. Giunchigliani noted current salaries were not commensurate with the revised qualifications proposed for Board members. She asked what vehicle was available for revising those salaries. Mr. Ghiggeri explained the salaries for Parole Commissioners would be established in the unclassified pay bill and would not affect the closure of this budget. Mr. Price commented the requirement of a college degree as a qualification to become a Parole Commissioner may be overly stringent. Ms. Giunchigliani noted qualification requirements allowed for experience in lieu of education. She suggested for this type of job, individuals should have the proper education or experience. MR. ALLARD MOVED TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE. MRS. CHOWNING SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED. MR. ARBERRY WAS ABSENT FOR THE VOTE. BUDGET CLOSED. * * * * * ASSEMBLY BILL 225 Makes appropriation to Department of Education for development and implementation of computer system for licensing of teachers. Ms. Tiffany explained she and Ms. Botts had met with representatives of the Department of Education and the Department of Information Services to develop an accurate hardware configuration and cost estimate for a computer system for licensing teachers. She indicated over the course of the biennium, the system should be in place with interface between northern and southern Nevada and the backlog for teacher credentialing should be reduced. She distributed to the committee copies of a proposed amendment to A.B. 225 (see Exhibit D). MS. TIFFANY MOVED AMEND AND DO PASS A.B. 225. MS. GIUNCHIGLIANI SECONDED THE MOTION. Ms. Giunchigliani disclosed she is a licensed teacher but would not be affected by this legislation and would be voting. THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. MR. FETTIC AND MR. PRICE WERE ABSENT FOR THE VOTE. * * * * * SENATE BILL 209 Makes appropriation to Division of Economic Development of Commission on Economic Development for replacement of telephone system. Mr. Stevens noted there had been a question about whether or not the Capital Improvement Project at the library building was related to this legislation. He stated it was unrelated. MR. ALLARD MOVED DO PASS S.B. 209. MR. HETTRICK SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED. MR. SPITLER ABSTAINED. MR. FETTIC AND MR. PRICE WERE ABSENT FOR THE VOTE. Chairman Marvel asked for recommendations on business process reengineering (BPR) from Ms. Giunchigliani and Ms. Tiffany. Ms. Tiffany reported she, along with members of fiscal staff, met with representatives of the Department of Motor Vehicles and Public Safety (DMV) and the Department of Information Services to discuss BPRs. She recommended authorizing $595,000 for the DMV BPR and holding any unused funds in reserve. She explained DMV wanted to keep its automation system independent from those of other state agencies and wanted to proceed with system development independently following the BPR, in opposition to the Strategic Plan for Information Resources and Information Technology (SPIRIT) of the Department of Information Systems. The recommendation for holding funds in reserve was to preclude DMV from acting independently. Ms. Tiffany stated DMV was requested to attend another meeting following the BPR to develop a schedule for proceeding with the project. She expressed the opinion this would be a four-year project rather than a two-year project and would require a substantial additional investment. Ms. Tiffany said the BPR was an imperative first step to determine where data would reside, hardware requirements, and functionality of staff. Ms. Giunchigliani noted $750,000 had already been reserved in the DMV budget for hardware, exclusive of Ms. Tiffany's recommendation. She suggested the committee issue a letter of intent in this instance, in light of DMV's position to remain independent, directing that reserve funding could only be issued for plans developed from the BPR. Ms. Giunchigliani stated the second recommendation was for an allocation for the Department of Prisons and Public Safety. She noted the Department of Prisons had two incompatible data centers. The recommendation was to provide for interface between those two data centers as well as interface with the Public Safety system. She suggested issuing a joint letter of intent from the Senate and Assembly directing the development of an appropriate network. The recommendation also included setting aside $250,000 for the accomplishment of the project. Ms. Tiffany suggested including in the letter of intent a requirement that the agencies report their plan for accomplishing the network and estimated costs. Ms. Giunchigliani explained the second recommendation for a BPR was for the Department of Business and Industry for completion of a system to coordinate fee collection and information and consolidation of forms among the various divisions of the department. She suggested setting aside a pool of money and allocating funds based on individual BPRs for each division. Mr. Close asked if any discussion was held regarding making the Fiscal Division system compatible with the Budget Division system to facilitate closing of the budget. Ms. Tiffany explained the Budget Division's mainframe software was incompatible with the Fiscal Division system. She said it would be a good idea to develop a translator to allow the two systems to communicate with each other. Mr. Stevens said linking with the Budget Division system was not the highest priority for automation within state government. Mr. Ghiggeri noted A.B. 206 includes funding to provide for legislative access to the budget. Mrs. Brower asked what the BPR process was and how long it would take. Ms. Giunchigliani replied a consultant would be located through a request for proposals. In most cases the requests for proposals could be issued within 30 days. The BPR process would take six months to one year to complete. Mr. Spitler asked why the DMV BPR would take four years. Ms. Tiffany responded she estimated it would take four years to reach the point where the system was actually developed, implemented, and tested. The BPR could take three to six months to complete. Mr. Spitler expressed concern that not enough was being done with the prison system. Ms. Tiffany replied the recommendation was simply for an interface to facilitate the exchange of information. Additional work would be required to develop a central criminal records repository. Ms. Giunchigliani noted if DMV was more cooperative the work could proceed more rapidly. With regard to the prison system, she explained a needs assessment could not be made until the interface was developed. At that time, it would be appropriate to do a BPR. Further, legislation was pending which, if approved, would provide funding for a central criminal history repository. Mrs. Evans inquired if these were the only BPRs being recommended. Ms. Tiffany replied the subcommittee had taken a cautious approach to BPRs until it was determined how they would contribute to successful implementation of automated systems. Ms. Giunchigliani reiterated some funding for BPRs was appropriated in pending legislation. She noted it was not appropriate to proceed with BPRs in the Department of Human Resources due to other projects and departmental changes currently in process. Mrs. Evans acknowledged BPRs were staff intensive but noted the department was badly in need of automation. She explained the Director of the Department of Human Resources requested funding for the BPR be held in reserve to be authorized by the Interim Finance Committee. She said this request had merit and was worth considering. Ms. Giunchigliani said information she had received from the Director of the Department of Information Services indicated the Department of Human Services did not wish to proceed with a BPR at this time. She suggested the Department of Human Resources appear before the committee to explain its position. Ms. Tiffany expressed concern that the Department of Human Services was already involved in the development of new systems and program changes which were overextending staff resources. Mr. Fettic inquired where the Division of Parole and Probation would fit in the BPR program. Ms. Giunchigliani responded Parole and Probation would fit into the Prison/Public Safety interface. Ms. Giunchigliani noted insufficient information had been received from the Department of Personnel for the subcommittee to make a recommendation regarding a BPR. Mr. Hettrick said he would like to explore the issue of a BPR for the Department of Human Resources. He supported holding funds in reserve for a BPR. DEPARTMENT OF INFORMATION SERVICES - PAGE 609 ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION ADMINISTRATION - PAGE 1883 Mr. Stevens explained two positions had been funded in both the Environmental Protection budget and the Department of Information Systems budget. Ms. Tiffany said it was her understanding the two positions had been reclassified in order to retain them in Environmental Protection. Mr. Stevens stated Environmental Protection would argue a portion of the job function was micro- computer specialist related, but the majority of the job function was not. If the two positions were eliminated from the Environmental Protection budget, the agency would have to request additional staff. Ms. Brower stated the action of the agency to reclassify the positions in order to retain them would indicate their importance to the agency. She suggested the committee issue a letter of intent indicating this was not acceptable practice, however. MS. GIUNCHIGLIANI MOVED TO ELIMINATE THE TWO POSITIONS FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF INFORMATION SERVICES AND ISSUE A LETTER OF INTENT TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION ADMINISTRATION. MRS. BROWER SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. BUDGETS CLOSED. * * * * * There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 11:28 a.m. RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED: Dale Gray, Committee Secretary Assembly Committee on Ways and Means June 10, 1995 Page