MINUTES OF THE ASSEMBLY COMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS Sixty-eighth Session June 5, 1995 The Committee on Government Affairs was called to order at 9:00 a.m., on Monday, June 5, 1995, Chairman Bache presiding in Room 330 of the Legislative Building, Carson City, Nevada. Exhibit A is the Agenda. Exhibit B is the Attendance Roster. COMMITTEE MEMBERS PRESENT: Mr. Douglas A. Bache, Chairman Mrs. Joan A. Lambert, Chairman Mrs. Deanna Braunlin, Vice Chairman Mr. P.M. Roy Neighbors, Vice Chairman Mr. Max Bennett Mrs. Marcia de Braga Mr. Pete Ernaut Mrs. Vivian L. Freeman Mr. William Z. (Bill) Harrington Ms. Saundra (Sandi) Krenzer Mr. Dennis Nolan Mrs. Gene Wines Segerblom Ms. Patricia A. Tripple COMMITTEE MEMBERS EXCUSED: Mr. Wendell Williams STAFF MEMBERS PRESENT: Denice Miller, Senior Research Analyst OTHERS PRESENT: Gary Holler, North Las Vegas; John Sande, Harrah's; Christopher Figgins, Clark County; Urban Livengood, Clark County; Ted Finneran, Laughlin Chamber of Commerce; Tom Fronapfel, Nevada Department of Transportation; Tom Stephens, Nevada Department of Transportation; Dick Goecke, City of Las Vegas; Madelyn Shipman, Washoe County ASSEMBLY BILL 658 - Facilitates funding of certain projects through interlocal agreements. (BDR 20-2005) Assemblyman Segerblom, sponsor of the bill, introduced A.B. 658. She said the bill would help Laughlin in many ways. Mrs. Segerblom provided a letter (Exhibit C) from the Laughlin Chamber of Commerce signed by many of the supporters of the bill. The measure would provide for an additional bridge site in the Laughlin/Bullhead City area. A poll was recently conducted by the town board and its community development committee and the need for a bridge was the number one transportation priority in the community. It would be a major development to have a second bridge for the residents of Laughlin. That view was shared by the majority of operators along the resort corridor. The county to date has taken the lead in this proposed legislation and recognized the need to be proactive before the session closes. Mrs. Segerblom introduced Ted Finneran, representing the Laughlin Chamber of Commerce. Mr. Finneran, a long time resident of Laughlin, has witnessed the tremendous growth in the city and emphasized the need for another bridge to accommodate the increase in traffic. The bridge currently in place was paid for with private money by Mr. Laughlin himself at a cost of about three million dollars plus his donation of the land. At the present time, approximately 25,000 cars a day are being driven over the one bridge in Laughlin. The county commission authorized a study costing $198,000 to select an additional site to remove some of the traffic from the bridge and move it further downstream where it can be regulated more smoothly. They are expecting more than 70,000 vehicles to be traversing these bridges in the next five years. This project will take time and it needs to be started now. Kathy McClain, Clark County Manager's Office, pointed out the need for the legislation. The word bridges has been added to A.B. 658 in line 14 as bridges previously were not included in the type of projects that could be funded by this measure. On page two, the information there allows for an interlocal agreement where either entity could fund the project up front and then repayment would be arranged within the agreement. Assemblyman Lambert mentioned this dealt with the fair share transportation bill of 1994 and questioned whether Clark County had put a district in Laughlin so the room tax collected there could be held for that transportation project. Mr. Finneran believed they had. Mrs. Lambert asked if he had any idea how much money was collected and what the bridge would cost. Mr. Finneran did not know the cost of the bridge yet; that was to be determined in the ongoing study. They had to site the bridge to determine how long it would have to be and where the approaches would have to be placed. Mrs. Lambert reiterated how much room tax had been collected. Mr. Finneran responded about a million dollars per year or a bit less. Mrs. Lambert asked if there were any other transportation projects that money would have to fund. Mr. Finneran said the Needles Highway was being funded with some of that money and he was not sure what the remaining balance was. Mr. John Sande, representing Harrah's Hotels and Casinos, remarked they were highly supportive of the venture. Chairman Bache closed the hearing on A.B. 658. ASSEMBLY BILL 669 - Revises provisions relating to county roads, highways and bridges. (BDR 20-2038) Christopher Figgins, Deputy District Attorney for Clark County, spoke in favor of the bill. He read from prepared testimony (Exhibit D) explaining the purpose of A.B. 669 was to eliminate Clark County from the provisions of NRS Chapter 403, a very old statute that was not relevant anymore. The first thing they wanted to do was amend the bill to eliminate section one entirely and allow section two to remain (Exhibit E). This would exempt counties of 400,000 or more from the provisions of NRS Chapter 403. Chapter 403 had been enacted in the 1800's in times when there were more horses on the road than vehicles and virtually no growth and was outdated. Through the years the Legislature has essentially superseded NRS Chapter 403 by adopting newer laws which were designed to be more accommodating to the county and the public. Mr. Figgins told the committee Clark County is currently involved in a condemnation proceeding wherein the judge ruled the county could not proceed under the eminent domain procedures of NRS Chapter 37 and, instead, ordered the county follow the mandates of NRS Chapter 403. This would be burdensome and unreasonable for the county. Their position is that NRS Chapter 403 is outdated and the provisions of NRS Chapter 37 provide adequate safeguards for property owners and at the same time provide the county with mechanisms by which it may proceed to construct new roads as quickly as possible. In addition, it is arguable that NRS Chapter 403 does not serve the best interest of the individual property owner either. In reviewing Chapter 403, Mr. Figgins said it appears most of the powers granted to the county are found in NRS Chapter 244. By eliminating section one of the bill and allowing section two to go forth as written, the county will have the appropriate authority to layout, control and manage the public roads within the jurisdictional boundaries of the county. Accordingly, Mr. Figgins requested amendment and passage of A.B. 669. Mr. Urban Livengood, Director of Public Works for Clark County, spoke in favor of the bill. He had contacted Robert Hadfield of the Nevada Association of Counties, who had conducted a survey of the 17 Nevada counties as to whether or not they had ever exercised the authority of NRS Chapter 403 through a county board of highway commissioners. Of the eight counties who responded, four indicated they had actually used the statute. That was a consideration in the amendment to the bill. He reiterated the language of Chapter 403 was antiquated and no longer relevant in the present time. He also mentioned many of the laws that are currently in place and used instead of Chapter 403 which could be eliminated with no harm to anyone. Gary Holler, Director of Public Works in North Las Vegas, said they were also in favor of A.B. 669 if section one was deleted. They, too, appreciated the burden of Chapter 403 and wanted to be relieved of that restriction. He felt by deleting section one, NRS would be made much clearer. Madelyn Shipman, Assistant District Attorney for Washoe County, supported the bill as amended and requested an additional amendment to put the population cap at 100,000 instead of 400,000. She said all the provisions of NRS Chapter 403 were covered under other sections of the NRS. She explained many of the provisions of Chapter 403 show it really did not need to exist because of the other statutory coverage already in place. In Chapter 403.110- 403.160 it deals with county road supervisors and boards of road commissioners. In both Washoe and Clark counties, the boards act as the board of highway or road commissioners. The Legislature required the capital improvement projects (CIP's) to be dealt with by local governments and those CIP's direct where the money will be spent on the construction of new roads. Sections 403.170-403.200 deal with classifications of roads. These sections say roads should be classified as main, general and minor county roads. No one refers to roads by these classifications. NRS 403.210 deals with bonding which is already dealt with in Chapter 350 of the NRS. Chapter 403.430 deals with opening, changing and maintaining county roads and the procedure for these is set forth in NRS 278. Chapter 403.435 deals with cooperation agreements with the federal government which are handled by the RTC or through interlocal agreements with the state and/or federal government, defined in Chapter 277 of the NRS. Chapter 403.440, condemnation, is covered under Chapter 37 of the NRS. Sections .450 deals with the apportionment of funding between the county and any incorporated cities within its boundaries and that is handled by statute in terms of formula under different NRS sections. Chapter 403.460-.550 deals with payment, construction of roadworks, inspection and claims, all of which are covered under NRS 338 or Chapter 41. Section 403. 560 deals with location of water and penalties for defacing public property which are handled by county codes. Sections .580-.610 deal with bridges and exactly the same things covered in previous sections and other statutes in the NRS. Ms. Shipman wanted to be thorough in her coverage of Chapter 403 to assure its contents were covered under other provisions as a judge in a courtroom procedure will select a specific statute rather than a general one and she wanted to clarify those specifics. Mrs. Lambert said in 403.090 it mirrored section one and was it a concern for counties that had cities in them. No, Ms. Shipman declared. It was not a problem because 403.090 was somewhat a mirror of NRS 244.155 mentioned by the Clark County representative, which gives the county the general jurisdiction and authority over all county roads. Except one says "except provisions of other law", and this would have exclusive authority; there is a difference when other laws are excepted. Ms. Shipman said that was true, but if NRS 403 was done away with by the Legislature, no one would miss it. She also pointed out section .090 has never been exercised and if the law were thought of in terms of exclusive control, cities would be in charge of their own roads and counties would have jurisdiction over unincorporated areas. Mr. Harrington understood a change in population caps could possibly make the law suspect for other counties in the state. Ms. Shipman was interested in that question. She said population caps were used in this state. She had an extensive discussion last session with the Legislative Counsel Bureau who indicated that law was liberally construed and changing conditions were recognized as sufficient reasons for changing an item such as a population cap. Tom Fronapfel, Assistant Director of Planning for the Nevada Department of Transportation (NDOT), indicated they would not be opposed to the bill as amended. He provided a handout to the committee on the STIP/TIP Project Selection Process (Exhibit F), relating to NDOT projects. Tom Stephens, Director of the Department of Transportation, was neutral on the bill. His concern was with the first section of the bill which was proposed to be removed. He mentioned there was an inference that NRS section 403.090 somehow gave the county exclusive jurisdiction over all roads in the county. He said that section applied to county roads and bridges. All subsequent law has superseded that law. If it becomes a 1995 law in another section of NRS without restrictions, it would take on a new perspective. He noted 403.090 had at least four Nevada cases and one federal case and five or six attorney general's opinions and has always been interpreted to mean only county roads. He was concerned that putting it elsewhere in the statutes would give it a more broad interpretation. As far as supporting the bill, Mr. Fronapfel said without a doubt the old language had to go. He was surprised section 404 was not included as that was another antiquated section of the law too. He would have no objection to the bill as amended. Dick Goecke, Director of Public Works for the city of Las Vegas, said the city of Las Vegas would support the bill if the first section were removed, otherwise they would oppose it. Chairman Bache closed the hearing on A.B. 669. Mrs. Lambert wanted to do a work session on A.B. 404 as she had some amendments to the measure (Exhibit G). ASSEMBLY BILL 404 - Makes various changes regarding financial disclosure by public officers. (BDR 23-664) Mrs. Lambert said these were the amendments that were decided upon and explained them to the committee. There were four changes in all (see Exhibit G). ASSEMBLYMAN LAMBERT MOVED TO AMEND AND DO PASS A.B. 404. ASSEMBLYMAN NEIGHBORS SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. Mr. Bache asked Mrs. Lambert to handle the bill on the floor. Mr. Neighbors wanted to check with smaller counties regarding the population cap referred to in A.B. 669. Mr. Bache and Mrs. Lambert both had some concerns with the deletion of Chapter 403 in that bill and wanted to be sure that was the right thing to do. Chairman Bache adjourned the meeting at 10:00 a.m. RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED: Denise Sins, Committee Secretary APPROVED BY: Assemblyman Douglas A. Bache, Chairman Assemblyman Joan A. Lambert, Chairman Assembly Committee on Government Affairs June 5, 1995 Page