MINUTES OF THE ASSEMBLY COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION Sixty-eighth Session June 5, 1995 The Committee on Education was called to order at 3:30 p.m., on Monday, June 5, 1995, Chairman Wendell P. Williams presiding in Room 330 of the Legislative Building, Carson City, Nevada. Exhibit A is the Agenda. Exhibit B is the Attendance Roster. COMMITTEE MEMBERS PRESENT: Mr. William Z. (Bill) Harrington, Chairman Mr. Wendell P. Williams, Chairman Mrs. Gene Wines Segerblom, Vice Chairman Ms. Patricia A. Tripple, Vice Chairman Mr. Thomas Batten Mr. Max Bennett Mrs. Deanna Braunlin Mrs. Vonne Chowning Mrs. Marcia de Braga Mr. Mark Manendo Mr. P.M. Roy Neighbors Ms. Jeannine Stroth STAFF MEMBERS PRESENT: H. Pepper Sturm, Chief Principal Research Analyst OTHERS PRESENT: Bob Hadfield, Nevada Association of Counties Chairman Williams turned the gavel over to Vice-Chairman Segerblom. The hearing was opened on Assembly Bill 663. ASSEMBLY BILL 663 - Provides school district may authorize use of property of district for commercial advertising. Assemblyman Mark Manendo, Assembly District 18, explained A.B. 663 was a creative idea to raise money for textbooks. He distributed an article (Exhibit C) which shows how a Colorado school district is raising money by allowing advertising on school busses. Mr. Manendo addressed concerns raised by others on what would be advertised. He agreed nothing inappropriate or harmful should be allowed such as alcohol, drugs, or tobacco. It was explained the bill would give districts the authority and option to allow the advertising and it is not a mandate. He felt parental advisory committees in each district could capably review all proposed advertising for appropriateness. Assemblyman Bennett, regarding Section 1, Subsection 1, Subparagraph B, asked if there was enough broad interpretation to address the previously expressed concerns about advertising. Mr. Manendo was unsure what exact language was needed. Mr. Bennett said it seemed school boards could use very broad interpretation to oversee the advertising. Mr. Manendo explained he was very open to input and suggestions from the committee. Assemblyman Tripple said the idea could conceivably be a big signboard on school grounds as well as advertising on busses. Mr. Manendo explained advertising was already used on backboards in the outfield of baseball fields. Mr. Bob Hadfield, Nevada Association of Counties, asked the committee to add language to the bill to make it clear school districts would be required to comply with the same local and state zoning, sign ordinance and advertising regulations others are required to comply with. Legal counsel advice indicates the bill may give authorization outside those bounds. He felt the added language might address Ms. Tripple's concerns. This request was made on behalf of cities and counties. Chairman Harrington agreed it was a concern. If schools become a "junkyard of advertising signs" local residents would be unwilling to have schools in neighborhoods. He stated his biggest concern is the content of the signs and who will determine the content. Dr. Harrington also raised the issue of political signs, noting during the last bond issue campaign in Clark County, pro bond signs were placed on school property. Signs expressing the opposing view were not allowed. He noted it is community property and warned against one sidedness. Signs on school property, while not an implied endorsement of the school district, can be viewed as such by others. Moral issues, alcohol, tobacco, sexual innuendo, were discussed. Some people may object to advertising junk food and others may feel it is materialism to advertise any product. Dr. Harrington felt reasonable lines can be drawn but questioned who would draw them. Mr. Manendo said the determination would probably happen at the county levels. The bill gives districts the option to pursue the idea. He suggested a small laundry list of restrictions and guidelines. Ms. Tripple commended Mr. Manendo's creativity in looking for ways to get more money for texts and lab equipment. Referring to Lines 8 and 9 of A.B. 663, which states monies received shall be deposited with the county, Ms. Tripple noted in some districts there is no difference between the school and the county. In some counties a difference exists. If advertising is done on the school yard or in print from a particular school, the school would want the money generated to be returned to their particular school. Ms. Tripple wondered how school districts would react to having another account or account per school to monitor. She noted accounts cost money, have to be managed and add to audit costs. Mr. Manendo explained his thought was to have all schools benefit equally in any money generated, and discussed how profits from bus advertising could be split. Ms. Tripple asked if the bill related only to school busses. She recommended the bill should say so if that is what is meant. Mr. Manendo reviewed the definitions of "property of school districts", Section 1, Lines 12 and 13. In discussing publications, he noted programs for various school sporting events already carry advertising. Publications from the school district itself could also carry advertising, with care being taken so the advertising does not become political or inappropriate in any way. Mr. Manendo felt the possibilities should remain broad. Assemblyman Chowning reminded the committee the precedent has been set with advertising in school yearbooks and newspapers. The concept and oversight is probably already in place. Mrs. Chowning felt the oversight authority would be the school board who are directly responsible to the citizenry in their districts. She felt the bill was appropriate as written. Mrs. Chowning asked if Mr. Manendo had checked with Colorado to see if accountability was at the school district level or with the state Board of Education. Mr. Manendo explained he was working on obtaining the information. Mrs. Chowning said the K-12 budget had been approved in Ways and Means last week for $5.8 million for inflation. She asked how much was really needed over the state level to pay for inflation. These were the operating expenses. The response was approximately $7 million was needed, which did not include group insurance costs. School districts operating budgets about to be approved is $18 million short. Clark County spends 3% of their budget on texts, which is all they have to spend. Noting the low tax structure of Nevada, Mrs. Chowning stated not enough money was given to school districts and encouraged creative methods to obtain additional money. She noted real estate people often order maps of the school districts, which could contain a small ad as a fund raiser. Vice-Chairman Segerblom felt equal opportunity to advertise was important. Chairman Harrington asked if anything currently existed in statute to prevent school districts from implementing the program. Mr. Manendo said he had not been able to get an answer yet. It was his understanding legislative approval was needed to do this. Vice-Chairman Segerblom noted the bill says "may". Mr. Bennett stated he liked Mr. Hadfield's suggestions as well as not allowing political advertising. He suggested investigating ordinances regarding safety standards on busses so advertising would not interfere with bus visibility. Vice-Chairman Segerblom noted students in Colorado Springs, Colorado, hold a contest to design bus advertising as well. Mr. Manendo thanked the committee for their input and encouragement. The hearing was closed on A.B. 663. Three bill draft requests were brought before the committee for introduction. BILL DRAFT REQUEST R-2120 - Urges school districts and Board of Regents of University of Nevada to develop and provide training regarding child abuse. CHAIRMAN HARRINGTON MOVED FOR COMMITTEE INTRODUCTION OF B.D.R. R-2120. ASSEMBLYMAN CHOWNING SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY BY THOSE PRESENT. ****** BILL DRAFT REQUEST 34-1878 - Revises composition of commission on professional standards in education. ASSEMBLYMAN BENNETT MOVED FOR COMMITTEE INTRODUCTION OF B.D.R. 34-1878. CHAIRMAN HARRINGTON SECONDED THE MOTION. Assemblyman Batten asked whose B.D.R. this was. Chairman Harrington explained the B.D.R. had been introduced before but was voted down due to absent committee members. Mr. Batten asked if something similar had already been heard. Chairman Harrington explained an earlier bill had been heard which was presented by the teacher's union. Vice-chairman Segerblom read the total description of the B.D.R. Assemblyman de Braga asked for clarification regarding whether the B.D.R. was voted down previously. Chairman Harrington said it was the same B.D.R. Assemblyman Bennett explained A.B. 112 removed all members of the professional commission except Nevada State Education Association representation. The proposed B.D.R. included parents, nonunion teachers and private school representation. THE MOTION FAILED WITH ASSEMBLYMEN BATTEN, DE BRAGA, CHOWNING, NEIGHBORS AND SEGERBLOM VOTING NO. ****** BILL DRAFT REQUEST 34-737 - Requires annual apportionments to school districts to enable them to comply with certain requirements concerning class size reduction. ASSEMBLYMAN CHOWNING MOVED FOR COMMITTEE INTRODUCTION OF B.D.R. 34-737. ASSEMBLYMAN BATTEN SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY BY THOSE PRESENT. A work session was opened on Assembly Bill 610. ASSEMBLY BILL 610 - Repeals certain provisions which require that instruction in certain subjects be provided in schools. Chairman Harrington explained it is desired to turn A.B. 610 into a study by the state Department of Education. The Department of Education wants to study all mandates to see if any or all should be eliminated. Their recommendation will be returned to the next legislature and their decision will be based on consultation with local districts. The message being sent is for no new mandates and those involved in the profession can decide if old ones should be eliminated. CHAIRMAN HARRINGTON MOVED A.B. 610 BE AMENDED AS DISCUSSED IN THE WORK SESSION DOCUMENT, PAGE 7 (EXHIBIT D) AND REREFERED TO THE EDUCATION COMMITTEE. ASSEMBLYMAN STROTH SECONDED THE MOTION. Mrs. Chowning reminded the committee of three bills before the committee creating new mandates which have not been decided yet. THE MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY BY THOSE PRESENT. There being no further business to come before the committee, the meeting was adjourned at 4:22 p.m. RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED: Barbara Prudic, Committee Secretary APPROVED BY: Assemblyman William Z. Harrington, Chairman Assemblyman Wendell P. Williams, Chairman Assembly Committee on Education June 5, 1995 Page